This system of ignition is too big and I cannot bring my original dashboard to the top clamp Or is it a simple installation? Get yourself a copy of the wiring diagrams for your bike and the acewell you're looking at can prob download bothand provided you can make heads or tails of them you should be able to work through it before you fork out the cash for the gauge. Gives you a chance to work out if the gauge is right for what you want.
Large or someone on here knows about the HISS system and how to deactivate it.
Rag metrics remember? If I recall he had to get a wiring loom from a US model to bypass it wall street oasis hedge fund guide pdf his issue was he didn't have the key so it may have a different solution.
Thanks for the answers,mates quote:Originally posted by Chase Get yourself a copy of the wiring diagrams for your bike and the acewell you're looking at can prob download bothand provided you can make heads or tails of them you should be able to work through it before you fork out the cash for the gauge. Well,I will download Acewell's wiring diaram. I think he got a new loom from the States??
On the the model I parted out the dash itself was not part of the hiss system. Got any more info? Hi Guys Very new on this forum. I recently built a F4 Carb motor into my F2 frame - what a mission, but all worked out well I thought the older ECU would work with the new motor if I just tweeked the timing Problem is - the guy sent me the one with HISS Snaffler is there any way you can assist me with this as well?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I haven't been able to ride my favourite bike for almost a year now and are forced to get around on a TW I got him looking for one without now, but was hoping to spare me another month or so before I can go riding again - it's been almost a year now. All rights reserved.Log in or Sign up.
The Gear Page. Plate resistor hiss bypass cap: Value? Dec 20, 1. Messages: I want to experiment with bypassing the plate resistor on the 1st stage of my hi-gain amp. It's a k with a ohm cathode. Plate has V on it. PS node is V. What value range of caps should I try? Any success stories? JJmanDec 20, Dec 20, 2. Messages: 30, I'm not sure what you mean by "bypassing the plate resistor".
Blue StratDec 20, Dec 20, 3. Messages: 3, You can put ish pF across it - just rolls off highs. Not uncommon to see in high gain amps. Peavey does a gimmick with PCB traces on some models. RonsonicDec 20, Dec 21, 4.I always thought the HISS on my bike was no real deterent to thieves - after all they just chuck bikes into a van then strip them down in a lockup don't they.
My view about it was supported by a my insurers didn't offer any discount because of it and b its not Thatchem approved.
Honda "Customer Care" just say tough pay up or scrap your bike! Wish I could - even with the actual key number Honda have got you over a barrel! Unlike other systems the owner has no control over its operation and it was designed in such a way that if you loose your only key you have to go back to Honda with a barrow load of money. I'm going to do a Jeremy Clarkson style protest by taking my bike to Honda's HQ and smash it up with a sledge hammer to show what I think of them - if MCN are interested in watching it will help others.
Same with the new car keys, you just have to be careful where you leave your keys or fork out a fortune for a new one. Hi If you have a working key you can probably get it cloned by any half decent locksmith. The chip in the key reads to the ECU.
New expensive cars are one thing whereas 6 year old motorbikes we cherish and lock away for 6 months each winter to protect are different. Also the HISS system is the only one where the owner is denied the option of switching off.
Jonmac wrote: New expensive cars are one thing whereas 6 year old motorbikes we cherish and lock away for 6 months each winter to protect are different.
Do you know if the Ducati manual states clearly the system can't be switched off by the owner or if it spells out the costs involved if the keys are lost? Thats one of my issues with Honda.
I thought this was fairly common knowledge to be honest! You bike should have had two keys anyhow. I've not yet owned a car that can have the imobiliser turned off so if the key to my Alfa goes missing then i'm in the same boat.
Can you claim on your insurance? Can't see the point of having an immobiliser you can permanently disarm IMO, bit pointless to turn off when its operated by the key. Surely if the key is out of the ignition you would want the immobiliser on. Personally, If I can't find my keys even for a day I get a spare cut. I make sure I always know where 2 are at anyone time. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando. Immobilisers are not foolproof and can be bypassed. Case in point - a friend just had her new Mitsubishi Animal hotwired and stolen. Ask a good auto electrician, or alternatively an ex-thief, and I bet they'll get it going for you.
TheBassJunky wrote: Immobilisers are not foolproof and can be bypassed. It is V expensive for a dealer to get off their fat arse and do anything more or less these days. I read up on how the whole programming of the keys process goes and fathomed my own way of doing it on the cheap. If I remember right the new ECU needs to be fitted and a link made somewhere, then the key has to be presented to the transmitter for the ECU to log the code and away it goes.
Because I had naievely had a key cut to the original didnt know about the whole hiss thing at that point I didnt need a new barrel or anything, so I emailed them telling them what i wanted done and it worked fine. For any of you cumbrian Honda owners would just like to re-iterate that CARLISLE honda wanted to sell me new locks, new ecu, new sender and new keys and wouldnt listen to any ideas I had.
That probably would have come to quid just in parts, arseholes. My problem is that I know where all my keys are, but I have a Hinda alarm system too, I know where both fobs are but only one works as I havent swich them around enough so one had dropped out of the system.
I'm not sure how to reprogramme the spare fob to the alarm system and shudder to think of the cost. The Visionary looks at "Animal Farm".As a rider, I get especially disgusted with a situation in which so many bike thefts are taking place. These ominous circumstances have become an endless source of anxiety, and I get angry whenever I hear the news. It's hard to accept that people's beloved bikes are being so easily stolen. So, it's only natural that we take defensive action.
Responding to this crisis, many anti-theft devices can be found in shops that carry motorcycle gear. From U-locks, to cable and chain locks, to disc brake rotor locks that stop the wheels from turning, to motion detector alarms and more. The more robust the device is, the greater the gains in perceived protection, but it's always such a bother to have to carry that stuff around wherever you go. And besides, these security devices aren't cheap. Then, what do the bike thieves think of these anti-theft items?
Whenever a new anti-theft device appears on the market, thieves scramble to prepare the tools they'll need to break the new device and continue their thefts, creating a vicious circle. However, thieves also prefer bikes equipped with no anti-theft devices, or having easily breakable ones, over those equipped with troublesome and time-consuming devices. In other words, it's best that thieves think that "this bike is going to be difficult to steal," which is another effective means of repelling theft.
Every manufacturer takes positive measures to protect against theft. In Honda's case, these include:. The ECU checks the programmed code number and only allows the engine to start when the code numbers match. For example, even if a duplicate key of exactly the same shape as the original key is used, the engine cannot be started unless the built-in microchip code matches. No match, no start. In other words, arrangements have been made to prevent the engine from being started without the motorcycle's original key.
The fact that the engine cannot be started means that thieves must think of some way to physically carry the bike away, since they can't ride it, and the black market resale value of a motorcycle that can't be started would be greatly diminished. A more significant feature of H.
Generally, the vast majority of immobilizers use contact-free radio signals to communicate between keys or key fobs and vehicles. These radio signal types literally initiate communications between the IC chips built inside the key and the bike's security system. And in spite of key-to-vehicle communications taking place over very short distances, the possibility that communication failures could occur due to the influence of radio signals saturating urban areas, or thieves abusing communication signals to get engines started, can't be denied.
In contrast to these types of push-button security systems, H. Inserting the original key into the ignition instantly starts chip communications within the key cylinder. It is impervious to both radio interference and signal interception, which is to say its operation is resistant to outside influence. In spite of this, the real convenience of H. In other words, protection against theft requires no special action, as there's no switch or button to forget to turn on.Here's how to reprogram your car's engine immobilizer to program new keys in the invent of lost keys or a swapped ECU.
The engine immobilizer is a security device. Use the information provided here in a legal and appropriate manner. The key is read by the computer and if it matches, it will enable all systems to start the car. If the key does not match, the car will only crank but not start. While taking the car to a dealership or locksmith is an option, it could get expensive because you are at their mercy. Did you use this instructable in your classroom? Add a Teacher Note to share how you incorporated it into your lesson.
When you insert the key, a coil near the ignition ring picks up the RFID signal from your key and sends it to an amplifier. The amplifier then decrypts it and sends it to the ECU. If the key code matches the stored values, the engine will start. However its location under the dash means you will have to remove the entire dash pad.
The procedure for reprogramming is similar, however you will have to short two wires on the OBDII port to perform a hand-shaking procedure between the ECUs to program new keys. This is where you need to get a programmer to connect the chip to your PC. You can either buy a USB programmer from eBay or make your own to communicate to the serial port. The components required are fairly basic, three 4.
If you do have problems reading and writing from the chip, you have to short the crystal on the board. PonyProg, a free serial device programmer was the software used to read information from the serial port and "dump" the EEPROM's contents.
First go to setup under options. The content should appear as an array of HEX characters. Each key has a unique 8 digit HEX code. There are also bits to indicate key count, enable programming mode and valet lockout.
After a lot of experimentation, it was observed that there are three distinct keys. Each key is an 8 digit HEX value, repeated three times. It is split across two groups of four, but there is symmetry in their positioning within the dump. This must be zeroed as well. When reconnected to the car, the ECU will be in auto-programming mode and will accept new keys as per the procedure below:.
Briefly insert any key into ignition lock cylinder and remove immediately. The security light should illuminate and remain on. The Security light may blink indicating it has accepted the key. After seconds remove the first key from the ignition. Security light should remain on indicating you're still in programming mode.
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Our service will not delete a dashboard immobiliser error message or light if the problem is external to the ECU or a by-product of the bypass. Our services are designed for enthusiasts and professionals, it is your responsibility to carry out the diagnostic work prior to purchasing a bypass service, failure to do this will lead you to extra costs and disappointment. Created with Sketch.
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Page of 4. Filtered by:. Previous 1 2 3 4 template Next. Originally posted by Pkunk View Post. I would listen to what Joker says. Originally posted by Kryzaach View Post. Originally posted by Brougham View Post. And I'm not questioning it either, just saying I reckon this is a work around that the Honda engineers don't want to release to public knowledge.
Comment Post Cancel. There are some guys on rr. Originally posted by ApatheticEnd View Post. I'm pretty sure they deliberately made it that way. It's supposed to be the most secure system in the entire world. If there was an opening in it, anywhere, it wouldn't take someone long to find a way around it.
I applaud Honda for taking the step of locking out all of those issues. The Twitter. It's kind of irrelevant isn't it? Even if Honda has created a hack for it's own system, it isn't information that you or i can get our hands on.
No legit company is going to tempt the biggest motorized vehicle maker in the world to sure thier asses off by making it available either. It sucks but if you want to keep the immobilizer, you'll have to pony up some cash.
Personally, i'd put a discrete ignition switch hidden somewhere and get on without the HISS. But I'm a cheap cunt. This sort of locked system is used by others. Some model Toyotas and Mitsubishi's I know for a absolute fact cannot have a new key added to the system if you have lost all keyseven by a dealer.
Many car owners have had to pay thousands after loosing keys This was on some toyotas 7 or so years ago. Now toyota have changed their ideas and a key can be introduced on the latest models.